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[CHILECENTRISMO] Valpichí (11 respuestas)

1 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 27/09/23(mie)14:52:14

[Cuando yo me fui a Valparaíso saqué un cálculo erróneo pero lógico. Dije: “A ver, una ciudad maravillosa, patrimonio de la humanidad, poesía hasta en la caca de los perros, cuatro, cinco, seis universidades, una población flotante de universitarios impresionante, estaban todos los elementos para que explotara algo. Llegué: Puros cura’os y sigue siendo una ciudad de cura’os. Eso es imposible que se dé en cualquier otra parte del mundo, sólo se da en Chile, un país de gente con tal nivel de mediocridad. En Valpo no hacen nada, sólo viven el momento. La botellita, el pito, la minas, el hueveo, la fiesta, la juerga, el reggaeton… nada más. Y cuando ves eso, en gente de esa edad, en que se tiene todo el potencial de creatividad, y están pegados con la botellita y el carrete nocturno, ahí te das cuenta que para el futuro no tenemos nada.]

2 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 27/09/23(mie)16:57:04

Siempre encontré feo Valpo, lo romantizan demasiado. Es una ciudad con cero planificación urbana, moverse en transporte público es un hueveo, y más allá del centro histórico, que sólo son un montón de cafés caros y barrios gentrificados, el resto son puras poblaciones callampa en los cerros. Es como Santiago pero con mar. Viña es mucho más lindo, tampoco hay mucho que ver pero es más piola para ir a pasear.

3 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 27/09/23(mie)17:15:24

Nada es tan terrible como Santiago.

4 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 27/09/23(mie)19:17:32

>>2
[Vina Del Mar should be renamed Vina del Urine: Not Good !

My wife, 11 year old daughter and I ventured onward to Vina Del Mar, Chile this past Christmas vacation of 2013. Due to rave reviews from friends/expats in the US, we have been talking about visiting here for quite a while. We were sorely underwhelmed by this place in the world, to say the least.

Let me begin by asking your reasons for wanting to visit Vina del Mar. If you have to go for business and the company is picking up the tab, well okay. There are worse places. If you are going to discover new culture, fine architecture, great beaches and interesting people, there are 1,000 better places. If you are from the US and taking a family vacation here, willingly, I would ask you to make an appointment with a neurologist.

There is nothing about Vina Del Mar that even remotely has an edge over the most basic of budget beach resorts at the Jersey Shore. All the beaches, in and around this area are dumpy and dirty. Many as well reek of urine, either from the horse drawn carriages, stray dogs or homeless people in and around the area. They're just NOT at all pretty. You walk out on the rocks on the beach at Renaca and find trash and more urine smell, at one time so pungent I nearly vomited. Want to go swimming? We were there on the first day of summer, Dec 21, and it was pretty cold just to walk around. But even in the height of their short summer months, January and February, the water remains Ice-Cap bitter cold due to the area's proximity to the Antarctic.

This is NOT a family vacation destination, especially if you have US teens. The restaurants are mediocre to good, but in some areas downright awful. There are 2 Starbucks in Vina thank God. You can not get a decent cup of Joe anywhere in this God forsaken country. We ordered a very mediocre lunch in a "café" on Liberdad (one of the main drags) with some Café con Leche. The waiter arrived with instant coffee, a pot of hot water and 2 milk cartons.......and if that wasn't comical enough, one afternoon we ordered omelettes and a cheese sandwich. We all received ham and "cheese of the day" sandwiches and the waiter ran away after placing them on our table. Yes, I do speak pretty good Spanish and ordered correctly, this is just an extremely odd country, and that being said, there is more................

A man came up to us as we were walking to dinner one night down 5 Norte, waving his hands at me as he got closer. Each hand contained a large nail. He was insisting I listen to something which sounded like the beginning of a zealous, inspired personal discourse on the death of Christ, and he waved the nails in my face for a moment before we all walked off. It took us a little while after some laughter to try and figure out what he was attempting to say. Did he want to sell us the nails for 1000 pesos? Why not? Various people walk around selling random band-aids, so why not nails? Perhaps he wanted a hammer? Help putting up some new shelving in his home? Nope, it was probably about some religious fanaticism, which breeds a somewhat puritanical and conservative air to the place. My 11 year old daughter wore typical US teen tights and a t-shirt one afternoon and the doorman stopped me, saying she was dressed inappropriately and requested she change. Whattttt?????!!! The same doorman hassled a younger woman for entering the building, wearing a skirt on the short side with boots. This, as an American, I found most bizarre.

In a nutshell, we were in Vina Del Mar as an American family for 8 days, and it was 8 days too long. It is old, smelly, and dumpy, lacking in character. One post I read before arriving there compared Vina Del Mar to Barcelona. What a farce! Barcelona is a beautiful European city and Vina Del Mar is a dump; an armpit comparatively to Barcelona.

Don't waste your time traveling to Vina Del Mar, nor its neighboring towns like Valparaiso or Renaca, which are even dumpier. Valparaiso is so old, decrepit and run down it looks like a hellish version of San Francisco in 1960 during a garbage pick up strike.]

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g295425-i7941-k7097106-Vina_Del_Mar_should_be_renamed_Vina_del_Urine_Not_Good-Vina_del_Mar_Valparaiso_Region.html

5 : : 27/09/23(mie)20:03:30

AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA

6 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 27/09/23(mie)20:05:21

Me tocó viajar a Buenos Aires por primera vez en mi vida hace poco y sólo puedo decir que puta que es feo Chile.

7 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 28/09/23(jue)19:08:40

"expats" así se llaman los migrantes primer mundistas

8 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 28/09/23(jue)20:07:34

No se puede esperar más de un país donde los gobiernos y municipios se rehúsan a gastar el dinero en cosas que importen.
>>4 EEUU no es muy diferente en todo caso. Hay más vagabundos en las calles que en Chile, sobre todo en las metrópolis "bonitas" como Nueva York, por ejemplo.

9 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 28/09/23(jue)20:35:37

Los gringos se quejan de cualquier carne que no esté literalmente chorreando sangre de lo cruda que está, de cualquier bebida que no tenga un kilo de azúcar por porción, y de cualquier comida que tenga más de medio gramo de pimienta.

10 : : 29/09/23(vie)21:19:30

Nada más rico que comer asado con su mioglobina chorreando.

11 : DQN LIFESTYLEにVIPPERでGO! : 16/10/23(lun)01:59:43

santiago en particular es bien mediocre si lo comparas con buenos aires.
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