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31 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [RU] (185.128.*.*) : 09/05/16(mon)20:22:17 ID:r4BgKI5i0

>Is there something interesting about your culture that you can talk about?
The interesting parts of the culture are long gone, but they are remembered and I don't know how I should feel about some of the crazy shit my ancestors did, for example:
>whenever they went to battle, men would smear the menstrual blood of their wives and daughters on themselves - if none of them were on their period, it was considered a bad omen
>the corpse of every slain enemy was beheaded and the heads were taken by the soldiers as trophies until the next ambush to scare the enemies
>the punishment for not joining the army was castration if the man would be physically able to join; they would be then sent to battle naked in the frontline; people with birth defects were also naked in the frontline, including women and children
Those are some of the weirdest shit.
>Shit I feel like an ignorant. Never heard of gutis before.
Most people haven't even in Iran, don't feel ignorant. Much of this probably comes from the policy of the government that we're extinct and the refusal to accept a unified identity, no one even knows how many of us exist and technically there are many different Guti languages because of branching over time. Some live in Afghanistan, others in Armenia, Iraq, Turkey, even Russia and China and as far as Mongolia because of fleeing from persecution in Iran from the Persians and others as they spread. It's considered pseudohistory by almost everyone since it is only oral tradition and many different versions exist, if you asked a Gutian from Afghanistan what history is like it would be a whole different story. Also many assimilated into Kurds and continue to assimilate, especially in Iraq where there might actually be percentually more Guti than Iran but they've assimilated to not just Kurds but also Arabs. Read up on Marsh Arabs, some of them are actually assimilated Guti already from the ancient past. The problem of classification is that there isn't a unification of Guti language or culture, or even genetics because of assimilation and counter-assimilation, and scattering across vast regions as a minority but never a majority for literally thousands of years.
>But is Guti a state or a nation in russian territory?
No, only a few live in Russia as far as I know.
>kurdish community (supposedly with guti ancestry)
Kurds are like a nephew...
>Do you Love Putin,my Guti friend.
Not at all, I don't hate him either but he's a smug.

Note that the Guti language is technically not a single language, or even a single language family as some linguists that have been asked for an analysis have said. Some Guti speak barely dialects of Persian, others speak Semitic, creoles, etc. and the language isolate that descends from the ancient Guti is not a unified dialect either, and some use the Cyrillic or Latin alphabets, or even the Chinese script, so there is a huge difficulty in finding other speakers online. I've found a few posts on linguistics forums and imageboards by some but they're always a very different dialect if even the same language...

My hope is to find other speakers online and hopefully reconstruct the ancient language based on what the modern dialects/languages have in common, just like proto-languages are reconstructed. So far there has been no success at all because even some grammars are very different, it seems some dialects have prepositions and others have postpositions (my native dialect has suffixes) and two of the handful I've met online even said they have ejective consonants which is really strange. So maybe the idea of a unified Guti identity is a pure fantasy that will never happen, there will never be recognition, but it's not as important as the journey to discover the similarities and the differences because the linguistic classification and related matters are not practically relevant in that case.
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